Curse

clawofcrimson · Jan 30, 2007, 11:23 PM // 23:23

the request is simple.... since the target for an aoe spell is usually on the move.... it would be nice to have a new targeting system that allowed us to place a aoe spell (meteor shower for instance) in a location rather than only being able to target a moving foe...

for instance...click meteor shower (holding another key or something) and then click the ground where you want to shower....

this would make the "nuking" aspect of the game much more fun in my opinion...and many possibilities would open up.

if there is already a thread on this or if you have reasons why this wouldnt work please post

Vlatro · Jan 30, 2007, 11:37 PM // 23:37

I play a nuker most of the time, and I would love this. My only concern would be the effect it has on PvP. It would make bottlenecked areas like bridges or stairs impassable. A couple of Nukes can just steak-out the area, using MS or Sandstorm from a comfortable distance. In PvE however, I think it would be great.

lightblade · Jan 30, 2007, 11:48 PM // 23:48

That would make things a little too easy.

clawofcrimson · Jan 30, 2007, 11:48 PM // 23:48

true...true... but it would be a very fun addition in my humble opinion...its not like these aoe skills are hard to get around anyway.... it would just make them a bit more usefull... the aoe skills that have a time period (MS) would become more powerful ...yes... but i think thats what they need.

The Hand Of Death · Jan 31, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Personally I don't see where it is going to be "too overpowered". Yeah so you can now target a choke point with AoE damage more easily, that is usually a good spot to place some AoE damage. Personally I can see it used to help in stopping retreats and stopping progressions for a little time, but as for damage, it will be just like AoE is now, dont step in it dont get damaged. As long as when you say anywhere, you mean within the casting range circle.

GuildWiki Jamie · Jan 31, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Personally I'd prefer at the location of target creature, while only foes actually get damaged, strategic spirits could be placed to act as a creature. note definition of creature is the same as [skill]Heal Area[/skill]'s definition... so many spirits don't count...

Lonesamurai · Jan 31, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Yeah, too easy, it would mean you could really screw up runners...

Oh hold on

/Signed

Winterclaw · Jan 31, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

AoE needs something like this. Maybe a special targeting mode that gives you a visual clue of the area that'll be affected as well. However, not all AoE spells should have this as a tradeoff.

/signed

Terra Xin · Jan 31, 2007, 03:27 AM // 03:27

What they could do is that you could activate a targettable AoE skill, then your mouse would turn into a missile sort of thing with a green radar indicating it's AoE, then when you click either your mouse, or the hotkay for the skill again, the skill will begin its activation... something like that?

BahamutKaiser · Jan 31, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

I have often suggested that you should be able to target DoT damage on any object, Foe, Allie, Self or even an object. Truthfully, they are not worth anything unless you can lock down a tactical location, so the arguement against making them more functional is pretty meaningless, since they are pretty meaningless without improved function.

Flopjack · Jan 31, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

My friends and I have also thought up of this idea. I agree with it too! Nukers should not be limited to having to target an enemy just because they want to use a nuking spell.

clawofcrimson · Jan 31, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

i suppose their could be some problems with all nuker teams in some pvp matches... but as I stated the time limit spells are easy to skirt/walk out of anyway

MSecorsky · Jan 31, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52

While we're at it... let's make Chaos Storm stick to whomever it was cast on.

<Insert evil mesmer chuckle here>

BahamutKaiser · Jan 31, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

In order for DoT damage to stick to a particular unit, it would have to be a removable hex. I don't think this is a bad idea, but it would likely face a reduction in power since it cannot be escaped, and requires a skill to remove, do you really want that?

I say just expand all DoT damage to area effect, and half most of the recast times.

MSecorsky · Jan 31, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

In order for DoT damage to stick to a particular unit, it would have to be a removable hex. I don't think this is a bad idea, but it would likely face a reduction in power since it cannot be escaped, and requires a skill to remove, do you really want that?

I say just expand all DoT damage to area effect, and half most of the recast times.

It was a joke, hence the evil mesmer laugh.

Celso Dantas · Feb 01, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Yeah, i think that a placeble (radar or something) area for nuke spell would be great. Give more freedom to strategis.

There could be a hotkey you press or something, that active the radar showing the area that the spell will act, you press, and start the activation time.

I think it could be great for the game.

/cheers

Redfeather1975 · Feb 01, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

/signed

Like placing a flag on the radar or ground for heroes.
It could just be a testing weekend thing to see how it works.

Elena · Feb 01, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

/signed aslong as you can still toggle to do it the way we can now

clawofcrimson · Feb 01, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

please note..this would not effect ALL skills ...the skills it would effect would be those that say target foes location like these...
[card]churning earth[/card] [card]earthquake[/card] [card]unsteady ground[/card] [card]meteor shower[/card] [card]fire storm[/card] etc...

and possibly the ones that target self location like:

[card]ward against melee[/card] [card]bed of coals[/card]

lennymon · Feb 01, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

we already have placeable aoe:
[skill]Dust Trap[/skill] [skill]Flame Trap[/skill] [skill]Smoke trap[/skill]
/not signed